Nick Anderson. Washington Post Writers Group.

Yesterday I posted this at MakeThemAccountable.com:
All the major religions agree.
Quote of the Day
“Tsze-Kung asked, saying, ‘Is there one word which may serve as a rule of practice for all one's life?’ The Master said, ‘Is not Reciprocity such a word? What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others.’” – Confucius
“Neither fire nor wind, birth nor death can erase our good deeds.” – Buddha
“Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” – Matthew 19:19
“What is hateful unto thee, do not do unto others.” – Hillel the Elder (Shabbos 31a)
“Allah loves those who do good (to others).” – Koran 3.148
[If anyone can find a similar quote from Lao Tse or any other Taoist, please send it to me at >caro@makethemaccountable.com. Thanks!—Caro]
Message from Harry A
I don't know of any quotes from Lao Tse or the Taoist tradition, but
this morning was taken aback when I read in the Hebrews Scriptures
(aka The Old Testament), the Book of Leviticus 19:33-34:
"When an alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress
the alien. The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the
citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were
aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God..."
Now I know that a lot of conservatives and Republicans are quick to
insist on the "Word of God" etc., including Bush; what part of this
quote do they not understand?!! Seems pretty clear to me.
My response
Hospitality was very important to the Middle Eastern cultures. It's enshrined in Islam as well as Judaism. Some say that the sin committed by the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't that men were having sex with men (that was pretty common), but that the townspeople weren't hospitable to the visitors that Abraham took in and fed and protected.
From Wikipedia:
The biblical text itself seems to suggest that the sin is based in part on inhospitality to some (if not a major) extent (although traditionally, the reason for the punishment has always been immorality):
Ezekiel 16:49-50: Now this was the sin of Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
This idea is paralleled in the Gospels when Jesus compares an inhospitable reception to Sodom:
Matthew 10:14-15: If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
This view of the biblical story reflects that of other ancient civilizations, such as Greece and Rome, where hospitality was a main feature in deciding the quality of a person. Also in these civilizations, men were held in a much higher regard than women (in Greece women being seen as little more than property, therefore, to demand not only a guest but a male guest to be violated against his will would be seen as more of a crime than to allow women to be used to save the guest.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
Carolyn, try this
Carolyn, try this website:
http://www.teachingvalues.com/goldenrule.html
Thanks Bill
And someone sent me this one by email: Golden Rule.
Sounds like those who refuse to practice the Golden Rule are going against their religion--NO MATTER WHICH ONE IT IS.
But they call themselves religious, anyway.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
Oooohh...thats really good Bill...
Wonder just how far back in time that line of thinking went.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest degrangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
I would expect right around
I would expect right around the time that Neanderthals started to realize that being used for food by Homo Sapiens did not bode well for their longevity.
Speaking of racism,
did anyone catch Tony Snow's comment not once but twice, that he did not want to hug the "Tar baby"... I was on another site and people were actually saying how it was not a racist comment because he got it from a disney movie, um the movie he got it from was racist. "Song of the South" is not exactly the film people should be quoting. Even if he did not mean it in a racist way, better judgement should have told him not to use that expression, because perhaps this might be offensive. I found it offensive as did many others.
just because it was inadvertant doesnt mean it wasnt racist. not to mention Fox news hacks telling people to "make more babies" because we might be overun by hispanics. "wtf" IMHO< the repugs are looking for a new base, Neo Natzis are about all they can apeal to now, everyone with half a brain has abandoned ship. These people make me sick!
Just to let you know,
I grew up in southern Louisiana, and the Uncle Remus stories seemed to me to be wonderfully wise folk tales. A tar baby was something you didn't want to tackle because you'd get stuck in it, not a pejorative term for black people. It was a surprise to me that some think it's an insult.
That said, I do believe that racism is a big part of the right-wing mentality. I guess beating up on Muslims isn't bringing in the bucks the way it used to. And liberals, despite the continued demonization, are starting to look good to Americans. If only as a contrast to the Bush administration's incompetence.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
I believe that
some people may not have known it was a racial slur, I grew up in a household of racists and it was one of their favorites.
I never knew that it wasnt a racial slur, I did not put the uncle remus stories and this expression together. Inadvertant as it may have been it was still unwise and insensitive to use that expression.
Tony Snow has promised to never use the expression again. which is a good thing.
It appears that everyone is
It appears that everyone is correct, and it depends on the usage:
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19990212
I don't get it
are Democrats now on the bandwagon of Bible as US law? "Do unto others" philosophy is very much a part of my personality and moral compass but I don't have to reconcile that with "aiding and abetting". I don't buy the arguement that they are simply here to "better themselves". There is an organized, coordinated movement going on, and it's being done at the behest of Mexico's President Fox, who has referred to the illegals as "Mexico's Heroes" because they take so much money into the country. Mexico is a very wealthy country, with vast natural resources, and I'm just curious as hell why George Bush hasn't delivered Shock and Awe Democracy to the doorsteps of Mexican families.
Don't you get it? This is about wealthy men helping wealthy men. Mexican citizens will not be lifted up to American living standards, Americans will be lowered to Mexican living conditions.
So, by your reasoning the
So, by your reasoning the European immigrants who founded this nation were not here to better themselves? Or could it be that your resoning applies only to Mexicans in particular, simply because they are Mexicans?
"Mexico is a very wealthy country..."
Have you ever been to Mexico? It is a country that has the potential for an improved economy, but is very third-worldish in reality. Mexico suffers from widespread poverty and social inequities. Mexican government officials are notoriously, and openly corrupt.
"...Shock and Awe Democracy to the doorsteps of Mexican familes."
I can't even find the words to reply to that bit of convoluted neocon thinking. With each post, you portray yourself to be more of a xenophobe, bigot, and rascist.
Couple of things...
One is the tar baby incident. Aussies apparently use the term 'tar baby' to refer to both the aboriginese and the Maori. In those terms, they are pejoritive terms. In this country however, at least for those of us who grew up with the Uncle Remus tales, and has been said by another poster above, it just meant a situation that one stayed away from since you couldn't solve the problem and would only get more entagled with it if you tried.
I suppose there are some who use it as a pejoritive term. Ray Taliaferro, a black man, thought so on his radio show the other morning. I have personally used the term here on this site to define the situation in Iraq. Whether or not it is pejoritive then, would have to depend on one's own personal perspective.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest degrangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
I think your Louis Pasteur quote is...
... incorrect. I didn't look it up, but I grew up in Louisiana, where the word derangement was used frequently. I minored in French in college, but I've never seen the word de*g*rangement. I tried to send you a private message on this, but you have that feature turned off.
Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com
Carolyn, I read this one in a book I was reading...
one or two weeks ago. It made sense to me so I used it. I did not try to track it down. Whether it is correct or incorrect, it is applicable.
Glad to hear from you about this--you can reach me at:
hayu_lol@hotmail.com use your name in the subject line so that I open it.
Thanks.
A mind once expanded can never return to its original dimensions.
Anne Hathaway: 1556-1623
The greatest degrangement of the mind is to believe in something because one wishes it to be so.
Louis Pasteur
Here you
Here you go...
http://www.cia.gov/csi/kent_csi/docs/v19i1a06p_0006.htm