Jebbie's new thing

Any body hear about the new Jebbie thing in FL?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/17/schiavo.governor.ap/index.html

He wants to investigate the Schiavo collapse 15 years ago.

This is the sickest, most obvious political ploy that I can recall.

This is how desperate these GOPs are after looking silly over the whole
Terri Schiavo thing.

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Maybe Jeb is not the smart one after all

I can't understand why anyone would still want to wade throught the Schiavo case - especially after the autopsy proved her husband was right about her condition. Where is the political upside?

Jebbie

These folks are so desperate, that they'll do anything to try to save
face.

The video of her tracking the balloon seems a little contrived, after
finding out that she was blind.

The nurses were apparently paid to lie. They said Terri actually talked
to them. Her brain was half the normal size.

Frist looks like a liar and/or idiot after diagnosing her, via the balloon
video, and saying she might recover.

Jeb looks REALLY stupid making this investigation move. It looks totally
political... and it is.

That poor girl died 15 years ago. They've just been..

keeping a corpse on sustenance and water. Why won't they let her go?

Jeb Bush thinks he's God...

even if this case goes up for investigation and ends up in a trial --the state of Florida will have to flip -the bill for legal expenses.

The Schindler's are insane , sick people; they love the idea of keeping their daughter alive through the 'legal process' and courts. --Didn't they get it --when the Supreme Court said 'no'.

Although, the 90-minutes of delay time from the point of Terri's collaspe to the point at the ER --seems rather odd; although nobody can prove what exactly happened.---

Terri Schiavo had a brain dysfunction and end of story. --How many more times does this story have to live --rather than letting Ms. Schiavo rest in peace.

Damned family!!

Jeb Bush has nothing else to do but keep on being a 'moron'.

Terri

I think that the Schindler's were overwhelmed with the interest the GOPs had in them.
The GOPs thought that this was their big chance at scoring points with the far right.

It's all about money and being elected. Sadly the sincere religious right is being duped into
thinking the GOP is sincere.

I think the most heinous thing out there, is the act of pretending to be righteous, when you're
really the "Devil in disguise"!

Jeb really looks stupid doing this.

The GOP REALLY thinks the citizenry is stupid and gullible.

Jeb Bush wants to "prove" somehow, some way

that Michael Schiavo was responsible, indirectly for Terri's demise.
They will not leave Michael alone. He has been a scapegoat since the
beginning of this story.

Medical Research

Since the Right wants to convince Americans that Michael Shiavo "tried to strangle" his wife, do you think that Jeb would agree to be a test subject? We could all try to strangle him to see if the same result happens, if Jeb Bush's brain dies (isn't it dead already) then we will charge Michael Shiavo with a crime.

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security

like it's some kind of federal program."

- George W. Bush in a debate in St. Charles, Mo., Nov. 2, 2000

Jeb

Submarine   USS Wahoo  ss238

We could always skin Ferret face Jeb, Ferrets do have good fur.

Same tactic, different subject

I don't think that Jeb even cares whether Michael Schiavo was responsible or not. The real goal is to deflect the real story, which is that the republican party screwed up on a massive scale with this political hot potato. This is tactic #5 from the Luntz playbook, which is to force the direction of the media attention to a different subject, preferably to an opponents strength, when it plays badly for you. We're falling for it again.

Has Jeb ever found a loved one down?

Has Governor Jeb ever found a loved one collapsed? Can he even envision what goes through one's mind? Does he think that you watch the clock to time the catastrophe? How does he know that Michael's clock was set right? What does super sleuth CSI Jeb think happened? Does Jeb watch CSI and think that he is a forensics investigator? Michael Schiavo should sue Gov Jeb for slander. This is the worst circus of idiots that I have ever seen. The Schindlers are just not well-informed and think that neurons will regenerate. I feel sorry for them. The governor on the other hand has either entered the the Twilight Zone or, more likely, will do anything to get votes, even if he has to slander someone. Can't Florida do something about Jeb?. As long as he is the governor I will not be seeing Mickey or Minnie or spending my dollars at Disney world or Universal. Believe me the more people who avoid Florida because of Jeb, the more he will hurt the economy. We need to focus on vacation opportunities in Blue states. We won't have any trouble convincing our kids to go there. They know that Mickey and Minnie have been co-opted by the dark side in Florida. By the way, I guess that if Mrs. Jeb should collapse at home, Gov Jeb couldn't call 911 for her. I heard that they have separate homes in different cities. Nothing makes me happier to see the Bush family values in action.

brain cells COULD possibly regenerate

The only thing that could have possibly helped Terri Shiavo would have been medical research involving stem cells. How convenient that the Right doesn't want anyone to die with dignity but the certainly don't want to make anyone better either.

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security

like it's some kind of federal program."

- George W. Bush in a debate in St. Charles, Mo., Nov. 2, 2000

Vacation in blue states-I like it!

Number one choice on my list- Hawaii !

Stem cells

If this would work, Jeb would have two reasons not to use stem cells. First of all his cult of life already makes it a sin to harvest and use stem cells. Second. he really wants us all to lose our brains not regrow them. If we all became really smart, no one would ever vote for a Repug again. We would be unhappy,thinking worker and/or army ants and not support our Uber-rich, no-taxpaying boss ants silently and obediently.

What crime?

If the loss of oxygen to Jeb's brain proved fatal, it wouldn't be a crime. It would be a miracle. One less Bush to inflict upon our overheating world. Sorry Jeb, I know that you don't believe in global warming. How do you feel about the tooth fairy and Santa Klaus (not your patron saint, Santa Karl)?

Clinton did it!!!

Actually, I understand the Schiavos were
Democats. So, in the repugs' eye, it's possible

It is all about ass covering

Old Barbara taught her children that they were very very special and that they were never to admit a mistake, much less being WRONG! So Jeb has to try to save face by proving that someone else "did it". In this case Scheivo has to go down to save bushie butt. It really isn't complicated when you are talking about the bushies.

Proud member of the reality based community.

Did you ever point your

Did you ever point your finger on it!

It's a shame that old Barbara didn't have any kids that lived

IT seems to me that all of the Bushies are brain dead. There's old bumb
ling dipwad George, Arrogant Jebbie, Old Neil is still counting his
silver from the savings and loan and the list goes on, I think these are
not people but clones from some pile of horse dung that Poppy Bush and
Momma paid to have made for them. This is one level down from Stepford
kids. Or whatever!

Pfffftttt

John Ellis is not a curious one, is he?
After being deprived of oxygen for FOUR MINUTES, the brain is damaged irreversably.
http://www.biology-online.org/8/4_brain_damage.htm

And just what kind of "treatment" did Terri's parents want for her???

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The real issue in this case, however, deals with treatment options for Terry Schiavo and whether or not they will have any positive affect so as to "significantly improve herquality of life". The treatment options essentially were the vasodilation therapy offered by Dr. Hammesfahr and the hyperbaric therapy proposed by Dr. Maxfield. While none of the doctors are really involved in stem cell therapy, it was discussed at great length by each of them. Perhpas one of the few agreements between these experts is that stem cell research is currently at the experimental stage and is years away from being accepted either medically or policically. It would not appear from the testimony that this is a viable treatment option at this time.
Hyperbaric therapy has been in use for more than a century. It is used abroad far more than it is used domestically. Medicare recognizes only eleven procedures involving hyperbaric therapy while Russia recognizes almost seven times that many. Dr. Maxfield felt there was an 80% chance of improvement in Spect Scan results from hyperbaric therapy. He has seen such with similar patients. Also, he felt there was a significant probability Terry Schiavo would improve cognitive ability with hyperbaric treatment. Drs. Greer, Bambakidis and Cranford have all referred patients for hyperbaric therapy but none for this type of brain injury. They felt that such therapy would have no affect on Terry Schiavo. It is interesting to note the absence of any case studies since this therapy is not new and this condition has long been in the medical arena.
Dr Hammesfahr feels his vasodilation therapy will have a positive affect on Terry Schiavo. Drs. Greer, Bambakidis and Cranford do not feel it will have such an affect. It is clear that this therapy is not recognized in the medical community.Dr Hammesfahr operates his clinic on a cash basis in advance which made the discussion regarding Medicare eligibility quite irrelevant. A lot of the time also was spent regarding his nominations for a Nobel Prize. While he certainly is a self-promoter and should have had for the court's review a copy of the letter from the Nobel committee in Stockholm, Sweden, the truth of the matter is that he is probably the only person involved in these proceedings who had a United States Congressman recommend him for such an award. Whether the committee "accepted" the nomination, "received" the nomination or whatever, it is not that significant. What is significant, however, and what undemises his credability is that he did not present to this court any evidence other than his generalized statements as to the efficacy of his therapy on brain damaged individuals like Terry Schiavo. He testified that he has treated about 50 patients in the same or worse condition than Terry Schiavo since 1994 but he offered no names, no case studies, no videos and no test resulots to support his claim taht he had success in all but one of them. If his therapy is as effective asx he would lead this court to believe, it is inconceivable that he would not produce clinical results of these patients he has treated. And surely the medical literature would be replete with this new, now patented, procedure. Yet, he has only published one article and that was in 1995 involving some 63 patients, 60% of whom were suffering from whiplash. None of these patients were in a persistent vegetative state and alll were conversant. Even he acknowledges that he is aware of no article or study that shows vasodilation therapy to be an effective treatment for persistent vegetative state patients. The court can only assume that such substantiations are not available, no t just catalogued in such as wasy that they can not be readily identified as he testified.
Neither Dr. Hammesfahr nor Dr. Maxfield was able to credibly testify that he treatment options that they offered would significantly improve Terry Schiavo,s quality of life. While Dr. Hammesfahr blithely stated he should be able to get her to talk, he admitted he was not sure in what way he can improve her condition although he feels certain her can. He also told the court that "only rarely" do his patients have no improvement. Again, he is extremely short of specifics. Dr. Maxfield spoke of a "chance" of recovery althougy he stated there was a significant probability that hyperbaric therapy would improve her condition. blah, blah, blah....blah, blah HOEY!
http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/trialctorder11-02.txt

Their licenses should be permanantly revoked.

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions.  Dorothy Day

Hyperbanic chamber

Isn't that the thing Michael Jackson used to sleep in? I guess it KILLS brain cells while turning your complexion white - so maybe he could have "helped" Shiavo /sacrasm

"They want the federal government controlling Social Security

like it's some kind of federal program."

- George W. Bush in a debate in St. Charles, Mo., Nov. 2, 2000

What kicenses?

Do these two really have licenses? What are the licenses for? If you pay some people to do or say anything, they will do it. We have learned that from the "expert witness" pool who swim in the dark, murky waters and venture out to attack. No one could have brought back her neurons. They had long since died and been replaced by scar tissue. It is too bad that charlatans exist in every field and know that a sucker is born every minute. Just think, a new little Jeb every minute. No he isn't a sucker,he is a Bush preying on all of us.

I might also add that if a

I might also add that if a medical doctor wishes to speak about medical science then he had better also be a scientist.

Forgive me if the above seems harsh, but if I see that doctor on late night infomercials spouting her cancer Cure one more time I’m going to be sick.

What this Nation really needs is a way to make money on real estate with no money down while getting rock hard abs!

We aren't falling for it

We aren't falling for it, but if I heard it from one person, I heard it from ten people, that they think that Michael Schiavo is a wife beater. Then, Jeb starts his cold case file. I just don't think that he should be allowed to slander Michael Schiavo anymore. Besides,I am enjoying the attack. The thought of Jeb with that dumb look on his face following in Dumbo's hoofprints is appalling.I want his political career to end in Florida. I did enjoy Dr.Senator Frist doing surgery on his own mouth and foot. He was trying to extract the foot from his mouth. He never made a video diagnosis,no,not ever. He only stated his observations.What a crock! Once again, a Repug is never wrong or,at least, he/she will never admit to being wrong. I am glad that some of the members of his medical school class let him have it for his arrogance and stupidity. Money can buy you a degree but it can't grow you a brain.

cleo, I am looking for a

cleo, I am looking for a post made today about further cuts by the Repugs to medical care for the "poor". I only glanced at it but wanted to go back and then fill in some people here. I think you or dinamac made the post. If this sounds familiar can you please direct me to where the heck that post is?

Thanks,

Jim

Healthcare for the poor

I mentioned healthcare for the poor in my diatribe against Hillary and Dr. Senator Frist. I don't know if this is what you are looking for,

Thanks cleo. I read your

Thanks cleo. I read your rant and liked it. I was wondering what
you meant about spending $.68 out of every dollar. The text runs
under the right hand settings box on my monitor these days.

The above however was not what I was referring to right now. I suppose
it might have been dinamic's post. It made mention of specific new cuts and the term
"killing people" was used (I think).

It seems as if I must inform family and friends with a slow drip over years
to get them to budge.

Jim

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