Rather Was Right

Over on the right, today is "We Hate Dan Rather Day."

Of course, "Exhibit A" in Rightwingers v. Rather is the 60 Minutes II segment that Rather presented on 9/8/04, entitled "New Questions On Bush Guard Duty."

Rather's report asked two questions:

The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.

While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.

Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.

The segment began with the interview with Ben Barnes, the former Speaker of the Texas House.

"I was a young, ambitious politician doing what I thought was acceptable," says Barnes. "It was important to make friends. And I recommended a lot of people for the National Guard during the Vietnam era - as speaker of the house and as lt. governor."

George W. Bush was among those he recommended for the National Guard. Was this a case of preferential treatment?

"I would describe it as preferential treatment. There were hundreds of names on the list of people wanting to get into the Air National Guard or the Army National Guard," says Barnes. "I think that would have been a preference to anybody that didn't want to go to Vietnam or didn’t want to leave. We had a lot of young men that left and went to Canada in the '60s and fled this country. But those that could get in the Reserves, or those that could get in the National Guard - chances are they would not have to go to Vietnam."

In other words, George W. Bush was a draft dodger who used his powerful family connections to get out of Vietnam.

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Of course Rather was right.

Of course Rather was right. I have no doubt about that. Anybody with half a brain knows that. It's the voters that have 1/4 brains or less that can't see that.

Three cheers for NCLB.

Rather was right on the Guard story but bad for CBS

Of course, Rather was right on Bush's National Guard Service. But I agree with Cronkite that he should have left earlier. He wasn't a very dynamic or interesting news anchor. That's why CBS News ratings have been in the toilet for so long. Had Rather been in first place in the ratings, he may have survived this scandal. But since he was dead last, he was history.

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Let's see now. Ratings = hone

Let's see now. Ratings = honesty and fairness? If that's the case, then Faux News is right up there with GOPUSA wouldn't you say? "Reality TV" and psuedo-reality news really boost the old ratings, and the truth is boring? Rove is like a python -- everytime the truth takes a breath, he tightens his stranglehold.

I will miss Dan Rather

I will miss Dan Rather and wish him well. I grew up in a time when 60 Minutes was always there to ferret out the truth and had the courage to put it on the air. We all know that the truth sometimes hurts. However, how can we make any rational decisions without understanding the facts? I guess that we, the average Americans, don't need to know everything because we cannot handle the truth or are not on the need to know list. Exposing the truth is fine when it hurts your political enemies. It is even better when you can re-invent the truth. We believe that the Rather report was right. No one challenged the facts just the document. Who would best know that the released document was a fake? Who benefited by the Rathergate affair? The real truth may lie in these answers. The evening news is moving quickly into fiction or melodrama not fact.

I am shocked

I am shocked that we the democrat voters, the DNC and the DLC are once again shying away from this story and from Rather. It is no wonder that other reporters are afraid to dig for dirt on the BA or to report on Gannon/Guckert. We, especially I, bitch that we have no mainstream reporters who actually go out and investigate stories, but why would they? We let this happen on a story that we know damn well is real, and the BA eats an honorable man's career up as if all the years of excellence are no longer of value and we have ourselves to blame when we can't get any real news reported.

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A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES

PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH MR. PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE A $200 DOLLAR AN HOUR MALE PROSTITUTE IN THE WEST WING, INTERVIEWING KARL ROVE, WRITING WHAT YOU TOLD HIM TO WRITE TO MAKE THE ADMINISTRATION LOOK GOOD

LOOK AT THE RNC, HEADED UP NOW BY A MAN WHO HAS BEEN REPORTED TO BE A HOMOSEXUAL.

WHERE ARE THE EVANGELICALS NOW...............YOU FANATICS VOTED FOR BROTHER BUSH BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT HE HAD MORAL VALUES, DID YOU EVER TAKE A LOOK AT HIS DAUGHTERS, THIS IS A MAN WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MAN OF GOD, HE TALKS TO GOD ALL OF THE TIME AND GOD TALKS TO HIM, WOULDN'T YOU THINK A MAN WHO PROFESSES TO BE SUCH A STRONG MAN OF GOD WOULD HAVE RAISED HIS DAUGHTERS BETTER THAN HE HAS.

I AM A YELLOW DOG DEMOCRAT. I BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS FOR ME. I KNOW THE BIBLE, I STAY IN THE WORD, BUT THERE WAS NEVER A TIME THAT I FELT THIS PRESIDENT WAS A MAN OF GOD.

WAS IT RIGHT FOR THE BUSH BOYS TO BANKRUPT SILVERADO SAVINGS AND LOAN, WAS IT RIGHT FOR MR. BUSH TO LEAVE THE TAXPAYERS OF ARLINGTON STUCK WITH A TAX ON THE NEW STADIUM HE BUILT FOR A TEAM HE SAID HE OWNED. HIS FATHER PUT HIM IN THERE,JUST LIKE HE HELPED KEEP HIM OUT OF VIETNAM AND THE GUARD, HIS ENTIRE LIFE IS SPECIAL FAVORS, GEARING UP FOR THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR AND THE PRESIDENCY, OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS AND LOOK AT THIS MAN.

DO YOU THINK IT IS GOD LIKE TO CUT PROGRAMS FOR THE FOOD, CUT HEAD START, CUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS THAT WERE IN PLACE. THIS IS A MAN WHO BRAGGED ABOUT BRINGING MORAL VALUES BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE AFTER CLINTON LEFT.

HE LIED TO ALL OF US ABOUT THIS WAR. OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN ARE DYING BECAUSE OF HIS LIES, WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE.

CLINTON MAY HAVE SHAMED THE WHITE HOUSE WITH HIS EXTRMARITAL AFFAIRS, AND YES IT WAS DISAPPOINTING, BUT WE HAVE LOST THOUSANDS OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN A WAR THAT WAS STARTED BY AN IDIOT AND WHAT DO THE EVANGELICALS DO, YOU PRAISE THIS MAN.

THIS PRESIDENT HAS BROUGHT SHAME TO OUR COUNTRY AROUND THE WORLD. HE CANNOT HOLD A THOUGHT FOR MORE THAN A SECOND. HE HAS TO BE WIRED FOR SOUND WHEN DEBATING, OR EVEN SPEAKING TO THE PRESS.

WAKE UP AMERICA..........WE ARE GOING DOWN.................

I have this strong, positive belief

that with every screw-up, every lie, GW is producing
more rope to hang him with. I have faith that the
people in our country are watching and gagging.
It will catch up with him!!

Remember ( we need to remind ourselves)
He "won" (Ha!) the election with the smallest
margin ever stolen.

Can Bill, Golfmonkey and the

Can Bill, Golfmonkey and the Cheese King hold the rope?

By all means, gentlemen,

it would be my pleasure!

Would that be a "hemp" rope?

Would that be a "hemp" rope?

Bill, would I use anything

else? ;-)

As long as it's Matanuska, Mi

As long as it's Matanuska, Michoacan, or Maui Wowie.

LOL. Bill,

You are so Bad! ;-0
I mean ;-)

And very well educated too Bill ;)

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Is that the ponytail talking?

Is that the ponytail talking?

But I DIDN'T inhale.

But I DIDN'T inhale.

ALL CAPS = shouting = hard to

ALL CAPS = shouting = hard to read.

Sorry for the Caps But I am shouting

I am also sick and tired of seeing Bill Clinton with George Bush, holding hands, blah, blah, blah.....it makes me sick.

How can he stand to be in the same room with a man who orchestrated his impeachment.

These guys make me sick. Hey, Hillary, you better hope and pray you hold on to that Senate seat.

I understand that ya'll are building some huge machine in Arkansas...good luck!

My money is on Howard Dean!

I agree, and I think we all s

I agree, and I think we all share your frustration. I feel like shouting too, but not at fellow Democrats...;-)

Somebody that will

still be watching CBS News, take notice who the advertisers are, would ya? I won't be watching anymore.

I have long since come to believe that people never mean half of what they say, and that it is best to disregard their talk and judge only their actions.  Dorothy Day

I won't be watching any network new

Why should I bother to watch the network news? I have my own personal collection of Grimm's Fairy Tales. I can read about ogres, bullies, liars, and thieves without having to see them lauded on TV as wise, prophetic statesmen. I can listen to the BBC and get newsservices from all over the world who more accurately describe the events that occur. Current events are now being made up and do not happen. Does anyone know any car that I can buy that doesn't buy time on network TV? This is now George TV.

The Bush Administration gave Rather the phony document?

Can this be? Could the Bush team have indirectly given the phony document to Rather in an attempt to nullify the National Guard criticism of Bush?

If they did, it worked.

It smells of Rove to me

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Wouldn't be surprised.

Wouldn't be surprised.

BUSH IS AWOL TODAY

Karl Rove orchestrated the fall of Dan Rather and Mary Mapes on the story of Bush's AWOL status.

It doesn't matter whether the documents are legit or authentic.

George W. Bush' military record says it all. He did not show up for duty and he did not show up for a medical exam.

How many young national guards serving in Iraq have died over a fool's errand. THE BLOOD IS ON GWB'S HANDS. EXCEPT IT FOLKS. THIS MAN IS INCOMPETENT. LOOK WHAT HE HAS DONE TO THIS COUNTRY.

I am sure that they would have rather been a volunteer in a campaign in Alabama, instead they shed their blood for George Bush's War.

I wouldn't be surprised if GWB hasn't renamed the bathrooms in the White House "War Room Restroom for Men" and War Room Restrooms for Women". The guy is sick.

The right can bash Dan Rather all they want to. But the facts are what they are. This president didn't show up for duty, he helped run a campaign in some other state. He did not show up for medical because he would have shown positive for drugs or alcohol.

If he demands to keep the story true that he was a pilot then have him do a fly by over the White House.

Put his little fanny in that same plane and see if he even knows how to start the darn thing.

TO ALL OF THE SO CALLED JOURNALISTS, GET SOME BALLS AND ASK THIS PRESIDENT TO FLY A PLANE, OR AT LEAST GET IN THE SAME PLANE AND START IT UP.

IT IS THE MEDIA'S FAULT THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS NOT BEEN EXPOSED FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS. AND THANKS TO YOUR REPORTING OUR COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE TOILET. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT TOM BROKAW, BOB SCHIFFER, TIM RUSSERT, PETER JENNINGS, CHRIS MATTHEWS, JUST TO NAME A FEW GOT A NICE BIG FAT CASH UNDER THE TABLE PAY OFF TO STAY AWAY FROM CONFRONTING THIS PRESIDENT, AND INVENTING A MAN WHO DOES NOT EXIST.

YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE SOME OF THE TIME, BUT NOT ALL OF US.

THANKS AND HATS OFF TO TOM BROKAW, WHO WOULD DRINK GWB'S BATH WATER, WHY DIDN'T YOU ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS, HEY HARDBALL GUY, WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO KISS UP TO THIS PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW THE TRUTH, YOU HAVE BEEN AN INSIDER FOR TOO LONG,

WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH, HE DID NOT SERVE HONORABLY. THOSE PAPERS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.

1. WE WENT TO WAR BECAUSE OF WMD'S
2. NOW WE WENT TO WAR FOR FREEDOM
3. NOW WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE FREE
4. SOCIAL SECURITY IS IN TROUBLE
5. SOCIAL SECURITY COULD BE FIXED IF THE TAXES FOR BUSH'S FAT CATS WERE ROLLED BACK, WILL HE DO THAT.....NO
6. TAPES ARE REVEALED TO THE WORLD, A SIGN IN TO THE HEART OF THE PRESIDENT, NO NEWS, WE KNEW HE DID DRUGS, THAT IS WHY HE COULDN'T SHOW FOR THE MEDICAL EXAM IN THE GUARD

HEY, I COULD GO ON AND ON, THIS IS AN ADMINSISTRATION THAT RUNS THIS COUNYTRY ON FEAR. THEY CREATE A CRISIS IN ORDER TO REDIRECT THE MINDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WE ARE SO STUPID WE ALLOW THEM TO DO IT.

I AM INCLUDING AN ARTICLE THAT APPEARED TODAY IN A LOCAL PAPER. THANKS TO BUSH, THE GENERAL PUBLIC LIVES IN FEAR:

BATES TOWNSHIP, Mich.(AP) A man cooking in his kitchen was shot after one of his cats knocked his 9mm handgun onto the floor, discharging the weapon, Michigan State Police said.

Joseph Stanton, 29, of Bates Township in Iron County, was shot in his lower torso around 6 p.m. Tuesday, the state police post in Iron River reported. He was transported to Iron County Community Hospital.

Michelle Sand, a spokeswoman at the Iron River hospital, said Stanton was treated there before being transferred to Marquette General Hospital for further treatment. But Marcie Miller, a representative of the Marquette facility, said there was no record of the hospital receiving a patient by that name.

A telephone message seeking comment was left Wednesday at Stanton's home.

State police said he was cooking at his stove when the cat knocked the loaded gun off the kitchen counter behind him.

AFTER READING THIS I WONDERED IF WE WERE UNDER A YELLOW ALERT OR RED, WHICH ONE WAS IT.

Depends if the cat was tabby

Depends if the cat was tabby or tortie. If he was siamese, than Asian Muslim yellow. If Abbasynian (Egyptian Muslim) its Red.

Personally, I'm waiting for iridesent puce.

The Malicious Media

'This delicate experiment called 'democracy' is doomed to failure without an educated electorate.'  deTocqueville

How clever they are: get your attention away from Bush's dereliction of duty while he was campaigning for Gov. Blount (I'm from Ala and I KNOW what he was doing then) by claiming the docs are specious.
Then ruin the careers of those who report it and say nary a word about the truth of those who witnessed Bush being present in Ala in the 1970s. He couldn't have been drunk in his girlfriend's apartment in Texas ALL that time.

Walter was from a different era

Don't get me wrong. I like and admire Walter Cronkite. I remember him almost weeping openly on television when JFK was assassinated. I heard him talk over Neil Armstrong's first words on the moon and have to repeat them to us. He was however from a different era. I don't think that he ever was on 60 Minutes and ever did expose type reporting. He really did jump Dan Rather's case and failed to pick up on the fact that Dan did report the news. If I were Walter, I would be more concerned about the fact that the Free Press is now George TV and is being vigourously smothered by the current administration. We don't even see the news now. Walter, the times have changed. You did just report the news. We loved you because you were not wooden like David Brinckley or Chet Huntley. You were human. We needed that then. Now, we need people who are not afraid of the administration to tell us the facts. I would be more appalled by the ethical crisis created by the con artists and perverts masquerading as journalists than Dan's "interpretive reporting".

I did not like the way he

joined the " let's kick Dan Rather when he's down" club.
That was very unlike the gentleman he has shown himself
to be before this happened.

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