The market will do what markets do. Adjust for fair market and grow again. It does, and hasn't needed a bleed off of funds from already over-taxed americans.

"THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING" (But we can save you)
and

"The Boy(s) Who Cried Wolf"

Sound familiar?

Why aren't the people who own these companies responsabile? why don't they sink like a captain and it's ship or throw out their own rescue devices, why doesn't the govt go back and audit all their incomes and demand that any profits and excess income generated by these presidents and executives and ceo's return large profits to save their own sinking ship ! Demand that they payback their own companies which I can imagine are millions and millions and perhaps billions , IMO it was stolen money , if all the executive have other investments floating around seize them and liquidate them back to the failing companies! How is it even fathomable that these people can walk away with their profits protected and the government tries and bails them out , how insane , If I was a small business owner the first I would do is use my own profits to save a failing business ! you would not borrow money or expect a bailout if you already have money and investments as an owner , just because you take a paycheck home from a large company doesn't mean that you evade all responsibility , if these people were contractors in which some way they are , if they did a half ass job and left the work behind , of course they would be sued for doing such rotten work !right ! and of course if they underestimated/overestimated they are still responsible for job completion because it was agreed upon , so why did these people not have a proper system put in place for financial responsibility ? maybe their pres./execs. made to much of that money for their own pockets and let every thing roll.
Make unbelievable amounts of money and let every thing go bankrupt ! this is anarchist thinking ! make the money that you want and let the government take the fall !brilliant!
Not only did they use poor business practice , but it makes you wonder , especially when the media is blitzing and Obama and McCain are trying to strategize and cool the calamity , beyond that why is their no call to all the American citizens who do have loans via these failing companies , why are they not called upon to make due on their payments ? overextended companies should at least make certain that they themselves are on the ball getting their money back from delinquent consumers ! if they must they should down size and pull in the reigns , no job cuts but selling these lavish businesses and use smaller compact offices , reduce employee benefits , a good strategy come from with the company not our government !

Our economy is just plain out overextended , people are living on borrowed money , and yes if you have investments made on behalf of borrowed money then TSK! TSK! for you your going to tank ! poor money skills and management! if you have borrowed and invested and owe interests on loans for investments made hoping that profits gaining will pay out on your investments then all you have done is bankrupt your loaning institutions , flipping loans and investments is dangerous on borrowed money period and should be illegal ! However if you made cash investments and do not make investments using loans your money should be safe and will regroup even after a short term fall! the key is do not the the media take all the hype and run the impression of the economy in the wrong direction because there are many people at fault and all of them are not just high members to society but also the typical persons who thinks that flipping money can make money ! eventually the levee breaks and loans and taxes and all the financial responsibility comes into play because of terms and agreements.

Accountability is the issue , legitimate investments come from legitimate money that is free and clear and independent of other loans and investments , so how much legitimate investments are there in this country , who knows, but the federal govt should be doing just that , find where all the legitimate investments and correct the and restore the balance of bad investments made from borrowed money.
If a person used giant loans and diversifies them then they hold large portions of investments through money that is borrowed with the assumption that certain profiting schemes will pay for the initial investments and when the initial loan cannot be paid because of poor investment choice investments have to be sold for lesser their worth in order to pay back investment loans which for the institution that loan out the money if they cannot be paid in full bankruptcy occurs and if too many people do this especially within the same investment firms and similarly practice these types of investments then if one goes bankrupt they all go bankrupt.

Remember the Troops!?!?!?

General Wants Help in Afghanistan Now

AP

WASHINGTON (Oct. 1) - The top American military commander in Afghanistan said Wednesday that he needs more troops and other aid "as quickly as possible" in a counter-insurgency battle that could get worse before it gets better.

Gen. David McKiernan said it's not just a question of troops — but more economic aid and more political aid as well.

READ MORE: http://news.aol.com/article/general-wants-help-in-afghanistan-now/119317

We've got little room to maneuver because dumb ass Republican "men" can get talked into voting for ANY proposal as long as they get to fight straw man liberal "arguments". (E.G. Liberals say it's wrong to kill therefore lets kill things in Iraq).

Way to go Ditto Heads:

-you lost us Bin Laden's head

-killed a lot of good Americans (along with children and civilians)

-tanked our Economy

-pulled resources away from the troops who were going after the shit heads who attacked us on 911

-pushed gas from $1 a gallon to $5 a gallon

-left the troops to burn in Stop Loss because you fanned the flames of inane military policy but failed to enlist

-etc.

World War III should have been waged in Afghanistan to gain us Bin Laden's head with a then rapid return to peace and prosperity. The world's Nations would have been left quaking in their boots at both our power and decency.

Jim

At 62, I was only 17 when John Kennedy was President. The entire mood in the United States was finally coming out of one of the most depressing times I had witnessed in my short 17 years. I graduated high school June 1963 and went to work for the Company I retired from 38 years later, and after only 5 months of working, President Kennedy was assignated. As far as I am concerned this Country has never equaled the enthusiasm we had back in the 1960's; until now. Senator Obama is one of the brightest people with some honest to God, down deep, heart felt ideas to bring this Country out of the horrible status it's currently in and has been for the past 8 years. He is truly the most concerned human being for the welfare of both the middle and poor class of citizens, and the "health" and well being of this Country at the same time. He wants to elevate the United States back to where it once was in the eyes of the rest of the World. Senator Obama knows it's going to be a tough road to hoe, but I feel he has proven his intentions by choosing one of the best running mates he could in Senator Biden to help. This is the best I have felt about an Election in many years.

The bankers should be held to the same incredibly picayune rules that rotten Southern Senators are trying to force on the auto unions.

Of course, the gutless Dems, even with a majority and a President, probably won't hold anyone accountable. Now they'll whine they don't have a filibuster-proof majority. I guess if the entire Congress was Democratic, they'd find yet another excuse for no-backbone-itis.

It will be interesting. We have a President, a majority, and national disgust with rethuglicans. Will the Deadocratic Party still manage to bend over in fear of Rush Limbaugh, drop the ball, or shoot themselves in the foot? This is the greatest opportunity in a generation, but I fear our so-called party doesn't have the right stuff. I only hope Obama can herd them together and make them grow a spine.

Stay tuned.

Jim

12/24/2008

History has repeated itself. I remember why we put all those laws into place to stop the crooks, stop the taking from the ones who do not know what contracts really meant, stop shafting the innocent hard workers who just want to by a car or house. Along comes Bush (I have followed all his misdeeds for years and know a idiot and crook he is). He had every negative misdeed he has done from getting kicked out of college to failing all of his business ventures, plus his drinking and drugs, everything to do with that family is hidden or just lost from the time it should of or did go public but those records are lost to, when he ran for governor of Texas.
Bush promised the Republican party he would take care of them, he gave away over a hundred Billion dollars to
Republicans cash and took away the laws that protected the American people, allowed cheap labor with open border
which brought more crime and took the jobs left after
he outsourced our manufacturing jobs to foreign countries.
Our government is trying to hard to help us as fast as they can and they are not able to enforce anything because
the idiot is still in office.

Hold tight we will get their, I'm watching everything
and trust me they are really trying, they know what
needs to be done, they understand more then they did
six months ago. The people in charge are not going by what they passed, now they have to stop him.

The crooks did not break our laws, our laws were gone.
Bush and Chaney need to be impeached now, so they pay
for what they have done to our country