McCain Effed his military subordinates

So says the US Veteran's Dispatch.  Maybe we should be discussing presidential candidates who are breaking military ethics codes when they carouse -- because it DOES matter:

In his book, The Nightingale's Song, Robert Timberg chronicled McCain's post-Vietnam military assignments and some of his "adulterous" behavior leading to his divorce from Carol and marriage to Cindy Hensley.

Timberg wrote, "in the fall of 1974, McCain was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of a famous father and grandfather [both were Navy admirals], since he had not first commanded a squadron, the usual career path."

While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."  Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates..

Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona, impossible not to take note of."

In early 1977, Admiral Jim Holloway, Chief of Naval Operations promoted McCain to captain and transferred him from his command position "to Washington as the number-two man in the Navy's Senate liaison office. It wasn't long before the "fun loving and irreverent" McCain had turned the liaison office into a "late-afternoon gathering spot where senators and staffers, usually from the Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees, would drop in for a drink and the chance to unwind."

Republicans have a whole helluvalot of nerve running this POS for president while carrying on sanctimoniously about Edwards.  Favoritism and effing your subordinates. 

Not pretty. 

And the following video offers some truths about McCain.  At about 13:40, he admits to being a failure and breaking the military's code of conduct when he signed a confession and squealed to his captors, and at about 43:35, he speaks face-to-face with the author of The Nightingale's Song but did not utter one syllable of denial regarding the accusation that McCain effed subordinates - which, in my book, is an admission.

Interview

About the author: 

Robert Timberg is a graduate of Annapolis and a marine veteran of Vietnam. He is an author and journalist  and has worked at "The Baltimore Sun" for three decades as a reporter, editor and White House correspondent. He is currently deputy chief of the "Sun's" Washington bureau. Timberg is also the author of "The Nightingale's Song" and "John McCain, An American Odyssey. His book was one of Times Magazines best books of the year.

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McCain's confession

I don't really think that we should hit McCain on the confession he gave to his captors in Vietnam.  He was tortured and he broke.  There are many other things we can use to show that he isn't the stand-up man he pretends to be, without using a confession that was given under extreme duress.  I think that the only people who can legitamately go after McCain for that are those who have been through the same thing.

He's wanting to be CIC

where should I hit him?

Are you telling me that his being a traitor is okay?

Do you think it's okay to ignore that when he's running on his 'experience?' What experience do you think he's talking about?

Usama bin Forgotten

Experience

You can say that that isn't good experience for becoming CIC. You can certainly say that he doesn't necessarily have the experience necessary. I simply don't feel right attacking McCain about what he did as the result of being tortured.

He wasn't tortured

by his own definition. Moreover, he had POW records sealed in Hanoi so that we'll never know how big his whoppers were. His bones were broken when he bailed from his aircraft wrong. He was pulled out of the water by Vietnamese. He received medical care that most of our men in his condition did not get because he told them who his daddy was and because he cracked and sang to them.

If he's an honorable POW, let's see the records. Otherwise, why is a hero hiding them? It's a very pertinent issue and if I thought for one minute that he was really tortured and his service was honorable, I'd reconsider.

I don't. I have no reason to. Honorable men don't hide their service records. Just ask Kerry.

Usama bin Forgotten

I didn't know

about his records being sealed. Obviously you know more about this issue than I do. I'm going to bow to your greater knowledge and let this issue rest.

Haruka

It's been a while. Welcome back.

I've spent a lot of time on this. The republicans are going to start with their swiftboating crapola soon and I wanted to be prepared. Of this we can be certain: If John McCain doesn't think waterboarding is torture, his treatment certainly wasn't.

Usama bin Forgotten

True

I certainly won't argue with you there. I wonder how McCain would react if he was asked about that. He would probably get very upset, wouldn't he?

If McSame had been an Enlisted Man

and not an officer plus the son of an admiral, he would have been court-martialed. Read the US Veterans' Dispatch. There is an article of two enlisted Green Berets who were captured, tortured and gave statements to the NVA/VC. They didn't get off as easily as McSame.
McSame likes to complain in his ads that Obama is a celebrity. McSame has used his "POW status" for this claim to celebrity status.
McSame is a champion POS. A liar, adulterer, and a major flip-flopper. And to add insult to injury, the a..hole does not support legislation that would benefit veterans. Remember this a..hole said the US was already very generous to veterans. He must have been thinking of himself. He gets $57K, tax-free, every year. Even with the millions the POS has in his pockets, he tries to stiff the people of California by not paying property taxes on one of the 9 residencies he owns.

As with all conservanazi republikans, he's a major hypocrite. ;0

A VETERAN WHO VOTES FOR MCSAME VOTES AGAINST HIS OWN BENEFITS.

BUCK FUSH !!!

"When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Similarities of McCain and Powell

Studying the backgrounds of John McCain and Colin Powell I am struck by the similarities of how each climbed their respective ladders. They were (and are) crafty operators of the system. Read Powell"s auto-bio and you'll note how easily he manipulated the Army officer corps for quick promotions then used his cool-cat approach with the politicos' and the MSM later on. Similarly,McCain used, and continues to use, his Vietnam War experiences with heavy emphasis on the POW days as he trips daintly through the tulips. He is a war survivor, as many of us are, not a war hero. 

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