i call get the fax number and work it like that. I love technology. It's like getting a screamer on Harry Potter!

Unfortunately, I have been stuck with Rep John Porter (R-NV) for two terms, he is squarely in Bush's pocket and I am constantly calling his office, emailing him, and writing letters against the occupation of Iraq, against the expansion of the war to Iran, to repeal Homeland Security, to withdraw from NAFTA, CAFTA, to repeal Right to Work laws. and I always get the same reply that he will consider my concerns and he always votes his cold heart with Bush.

Maybe you would like to send your rep and Seantors or one of them a book that will do the investigative work for them? Impeach the President: The Case Against Bush and Cheney by Dennis Loo, Peter Phillips, and Howard Zinn
and The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office by Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky Both are well written and scholarly rather than opinion books.

I suggest this because so many of our reps just don't seem to know what is going on out here in the real world. I am amazed when I hear both dems and repugs telling us what the vote in '06 really meant and what message we were sending to congress. Some of them have a partial understanding and others have no clue. I fear that is the way that they view impeachment, mostly as rash talk coming from the ill informed, rather than serious discourse from individuals who understand the law and the Constitution. If congress needs their feet to be held to the fire to get them to do what they are mandated to do under that Constitution, then so be it. I think many of our reps have forgotten basic high school physics (?) [I meant of course civics] class or believe that was just charming chat with no relationship to modern reality.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross." ~ Sinclair Lewis

In a time of deception telling the truth is a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

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That's about the same letter I receive from my Democratic Senate representatives. Yes..but as members of the Congress they could support House members. They fail to do that all the time.

They act like the House of Lords in Britain. Royals who vote when it comes to them from the House. They can no longer act helpless since they now do have a voice of the majority to speak.

Bush had the Iraq Study Group (hand picked by him and not elected but selected) talk about Iraq. He did not listen to the people who said, no more war in the Middle East...get out. Now like the 2006 election never happened, they are discussing a Iraq "resolution and funding" on CPSAN before us. What are they wanting for our approval or each others? The RW media coverage for support from them?

Bush is buying time and doing smoke screens to cover the CIA trials, etc.

They wouldn't want to do any thing too drastic and put the troops in danger? What danger? Like having them killed everyday because the Iraqis hate us after we Shocked & Awed them? For years they've gone without power, good water, jobs, live in constant fear? We are the invaders and they will fight us until we leave. End of the Iraq Discussion group!!

My uncle was head of the civilian rebuilding (he was German/American himself and was in the military) in Germany after WWII. He DID NOT walk off with millions of dollars in plunder. The citizens didn't rebel or kill us because we were doing something for them. We left them with a democracy not ruined lives and future. We didn't torture and jail them. We didn't steal from them. Iraq can not be compared to WWII or the Marshall Plan.

The "rebuilding" of Iraq is just criminal in all aspects. Many call it genocide. They had a structure before we bombed them. Iraq is almost back to tribal level since we've been there. We didn't help them after Suddam. They are worse off.

We went into Iraq to free them and have a democracy (at least we were told that after the WMD couldn't be found). There was an Iraqi election yet that is not enough. Now we are there until we win against all Islamics all over the world? Is that a plan for success?

We build premanent bases over there while closing ours here. Isn't that bad for us and our own safety? Whose going to die for their profit? Whose going to pay for it since we are broke? Whose going to elect these American Congressman, or you Congressman King if you/they fail to listen?

Congressman Pete King (R-3rd District, NY) even reached back to President Harry Truman's bad poll numbers to say (during the fight against Communism) stay the course. What? Communism was not an issue under Truman was it? It was a world war against Fascists (which he seems to support right here in America) not a war against a small innocent country who was attacked by us and the British.

Bush's poll numbers are lower than any President for a longer time then any in history. The media made Truman a hero. He is not mine for bombing Japan when the war was won. The people did not approve of that action. They don't approve of Bush's either.

President Truman didn't torture and jail innocents for profit and power. Set up secret prisons off shore. He didn't remove trial by jury or spy on innocent Americans either. If he did, he had a court order.

Bush is a horror unlike any President in our history. Truman's administration believed in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. He didn't have a world order plan to remove our borders and nationhood to set up his own government without a democracy. That would have been treason.

Congressman King said, the Congress and President know better than the people and should stay the course until we win. How are they going to win and what are their goals...against what? It keeps changing...the plan and the enemy. The "enemy..."them"..."the Islamics"..."the Iranians"...the "insurgents" all have something in common. They have oil.

Congressman King how do we know President Bush doesn't have his "private mercinaries" in Iraq setting up attacks,etc. so it would look like it is the Iranians, Iraqis, etc. when it is his Death Squad like Iran Contra days in S. America under another lying President Reagan? Presidents Bush and Reagan have been caught in big lies and criminal activity.

Bush's Empire wants that oil and his Middle East Union. It is about Empire..that is the plan (PNAC). It's no secret.

The British have been caught doing "terrorism" in Iraq. Tony Blair lied about the WMD and had a partner to lie about "the policy" to go to Iraq in the Downing Documents. It was Bush who signed and met with Blair behind closed doors and in secret to set the policy of war in Iraq before 911.

Now Congressman King that is not a way to run either democracies is it? Congress decides about war and the purse. Did you forget?

Congressman King you can't keep your history straight. Is it because you are misleading and lying for King Bush and his Empire? I heard people call our country a Fascist/ Police State now part of the Americas Union. None are democracies. Did we pay and elect you to do as you please? In a democracy we have no kings or dictators...or sole deciders.

Stay the course until we have no wealth, military, or freedom left? My vote is no.

Keep the middle class and poor so busy worrying themselves over making payment deadlines to allow this administration who is in cahoots with most of them, run rough shod over the people. I'll say one thing for the Republiklans, (and I have been watching them in every Presidency since Nixon)They sure know how to make a chaotic stinky financial bloody mess.

While one Senator is out of touch, parading about the country as a presidential hopeful, my other Senator responded.

...The House of Representatives has the Constitutional authority to determine whether to impeach and to draft articles of impeachment. Should the House vote to impeach and specify the grounds upon which impeachment is based, the matter is then presented to the Senate for trial.

On December 18, 2005, Representative John Conyers introduced House Resolution 635. This measure would create a Select Committee in the House of Representatives to investigate the Administration's intent to go to war in Iraq before Congress authorized such action, determine if the President or any of his advisors manipulated pre-war intelligence, and study whether the Administration has encouraged torture in the treatment of Iraqi prisoners. This Select Committee would be required to present its findings to the full House and advise the House on whether the information discovered may constitute grounds for impeachment. This measure has been referred to the House Rules Committee.

I am troubled by many of the actions of this Administration; and so are the American people, as demonstrated by the mid-term elections. The new leadership in Congress will seek a new direction for our nation while reinstituting the Congressional oversight that has been sadly missing in recent years.

I will keep your views in mind as the fact-finding continues.

Now I'm waiting to hear from my rep.

Every time I have written to Sen. Kennedy I have gotton a responce from him. 2 time I got an e-mail from one of his aids and 1 time I got a letter from him personally signed dealing with the VA. I am a dissabled vet and I use my elected officials to the max. My best one was Mitt Romney. I had been waiting for about 14 months on a re-evalutaion form my local VA in Boston. They kept giveing me the run around so I e-mailed him, guess what? I got a call from Healy herself on the issue! Needless to say my re-eval from the VA was completed 4 days later from the day I talked to Ass.Gov Healy and was told by her that Mitt personaly was going to make the call to the VA in Boston concerning my case.

a cheer to get elected in Virginia. Rediculous right. We changed it though. The hard questions will be asked democrats so get the answers that we need to impeach.

And the petition just grows and grows!

It's been six years and this President does not read or care about any of them. He has his agenda and doesn't give a bit about representing ours.

Citizens, all kinds of expert groups sent letters, post letters in newspapers, talk on CSPAN, and protest outside his ranch and all over the country.

Cities and state legislative bodies have protested his Patriot Acts,etc. Anti-war and Empire protestors have been in the streets for almost six years.

Numerous letters with petitions have been presented over the years by citizen action peace groups to Bush. The White House/secret service police deny admission to them.

Where have you been?

Hey Bob, that was fun. I really gave them reason to think about this so called escalation. I am listening to the debate as I continue wioththe struggle for truth and justice. Keep up the good work. Peace

I have left e-mail's to her staff in the contact us. Keep clicking its there.

Try Speaker.com. I think that was it.

The George Tenet A Moron who was head of the CIA

By

Al Rogers

When will congress drag it’s collected asses in and lay the evidence that George Tenet conspired to manipulate intelligence to convince congress to give Bush Authority to invade Iraq?

People do stupid things all the time, but most people aren't the Director of Central Intelligence and the things aren't stuff like forgetting to write an intelligence assessment on a country you don't think is much of a threat but that your employers seem intent on invading. So when George Tenet says that's what he did, I suspect he's painting himself as a moron to avoid being painted by others as something worse: a coward. I don't think it's working; I think he's just coming off as a cowardly moron, someone who failed to protect his country from the Doctor’s Strangelove in the White House and was stupid enough to try to rationalize the failure in print. Does anyone really believe Alberto Gonzalez’s testimony that can’t recall 50 different conversations he has had in regards to the firing’s of 8 attorney generals???

Brent Budowsky suggests that Tenet's book tour should be conducted under oath, a reference to the recent invitation extended Tenet by House oversight committee chairman Henry Waxman. It's a good idea. The first few paragraphs of a Washington Post story about the book offer enough self-contradicting or nonsensical excerpts to guarantee riveting, if not expository, theater.

The most obvious flaw in the narrative as described by the Post story arises from Tenet's unsurprising revelation about the administration's early focus on invading Iraq. Tenet says that he never questioned the threat posed by Saddam, only whether or not it was imminent, but he also says that whatever threat Iraq posed was so far off the radar that it wasn't even mentioned in the CIA threat briefings provided to the incoming administration in November and December of 2000. He says that although the administration, in particular Dick Cheney, signaled before they even took office that invading Iraq was a serious priority, he, Tenet, didn't think updating the National Intelligence Estimate on the country was necessary until Congressional Democrats demanded it before the October,2002, vote on authorizing the invasion, nearly two years after he recognized the administration's determination to pull the trigger.

Underestimating the stupidity of appointed officials is always a risky undertaking, but Tenet's professed failure to recognize the need for a comprehensive assessment of the state of affairs in Iraq mere months before the US was to launch a war against the country isn't even in the same universe as stupid; it would never occur to anyone with the intellectual capacity to button their own shirt not to do that. No: he was simply afraid to get in the way, something he demonstrates vividly in the description of his reaction to Cheney's assertions that Saddam was developing nuclear weapons.

A speech by Cheney in August 2002 "went well beyond what our analysis could support," Tenet writes. The speech charged, among other things, that Hussein had restarted his nuclear program and would "acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon . . . perhaps within a year." Caught off-guard by the remarks, which had not been cleared by the CIA, Tenet says he considered confronting the vice president on the subject but did not.

The early reactions to Tenet's book from former CIA employees are not pleasant. Larry Johnson, who was as prominent a critic of the pre-war intelligence process as could be found, wants Tenet drummed out of the species.

Sorry George. Too little and way too damn late. You had ample opportunity to blow the whistle on the Bush bullshit but you played ball. I do not give a damn whether you did or did not say the case for war was a "slam dunk". You signed off on Colin Powell's presentation to the United Nations. You, more than any other U.S. Government senior official, were in the unique position to know that the Secretary of State was selling a pack of lies. And you sat behind him nodding affirmatively like a bobble head doll.

Michael Scheuer, the former head of the agency's bin Laden unit who hails from far to the political right of Johnson, is perhaps even less charitable in his Washington Post op-ed piece.

At day's end, his exercise in finger-pointing is designed to disguise the central, tragic fact of his book. Tenet in effect is saying that he knew all too well why the United States should not invade Iraq, that he told his political masters and that he was ignored. But above all, he's saying that he lacked the moral courage to resign and speak out publicly to try to stop our country from striding into what he knew would be an abyss.

Powell has also been blasted for being a good soldier during the march to war rather than quitting in protest. The Bush administration would have been hurt by Powell's resignation, but it might not have stopped the war. But Tenet's resignation would have destroyed the neocons' Iraq house of cards by discrediting the only glue holding it together: the intelligence that "proved" Saddam Hussein guilty of pursuing nuclear weapons and working with al-Qaeda. After all, the compelling briefing that Powell, with Tenet sitting just behind his shoulder, gave the U.N. Security Council in February 2003 could never have been delivered if Tenet had blown the whistle.

I suggested in 2004 that the country could do much worse than to replace the CIA with Knight Ridder's (now McClatchy's) Washington Bureau because it seemed then, as it had for the better part of two years, that the company's team of Jonathon Landay and Warren Strobel were considerably better informed about Iraq-related intelligence than anyone in the administration including, apparently, Tenet. But the book seems set to confirm that, as Johnson and Scheuer say, what distinguishes the two reporters from Tenet was not information but the courage to use it. Had Tenet done so, he might not have gotten his Medal of Freedom but he might have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and ended up with an even sweeter book deal than the one he got, and it would surely have been a better book.

Since 2001, however, several key Clinton counterterrorism insiders (including NSC staffers Richard A. Clarke, Benjamin and Simon) have reported that Tenet consistently denigrated the targeting data on Bin Laden, causing the president and his team to lose confidence in the hard-won intelligence. "We could never get over the critical hurdle of being able to corroborate Bin Ladin's whereabouts," Tenet now writes. That of course is untrue, but it spared him from ever having to explain the awkward fallout if an attempt to get Bin Laden failed. I believe Clinton's interest in protecting Americans was always a top priority, but it does reveal Tenet's easy willingness to play for patsies the CIA officers who risked their lives to garner intelligence and then to undercut their work to avoid censure if an attack went wrong.

Justice might not be wholly served if Tenet's book sales are torpedoed because he's testifying about its contents under oath in front of Waxman's committee, but she might at least be pleased by the nod in her direction. Here's hoping.

The decline of the CIA began in the late 1980s, when the impending end of the Cold War meant smaller budgets and fewer hires, and it continued through Sept. 11, 2001. When Tenet and his bungling operations chief, James Pavitt, described in congressional testimony after the terrorist attacks, they tried to blame the clandestine service's weaknesses on congressional cuts. But Tenet had helped preside over every step of the service's decline during three consecutive administrations -- Bush, Clinton, Bush -- in a series of key intelligence jobs for the Senate, the National Security Council and the CIA. Only 9/11, it seems, convinced Tenet of the importance of a large, aggressive clandestine service to U.S. security. If congress exercises any oversight and takes a closer look at George Tenet’s service to this country, I really believe he might be the “smoking gun” that leads to forcing at least War Profiteer broker (currently referred to as the V.P) Dick Cheney to resign his position as Vice President! In Closing MSNBC’s Chris Mathews needs to stop asking that dumb question what was Dick Cheney’s motive to wanting to Invade Iraq. He asked Washington Post’s Dana Priest that question the other day.

Dick Cheney’s mission is to serve the best interests of the military industrial complex.

There is more than 127,000 independent contractors making a living in Iraq. A war profiteer broker’s first responsibility is to maximize the profits of Halliburton, Kellogg Brown and Root, Dyna Corp and all the other American corporations that financially support the Republican Party. Since Bush took office 6 years ago independent government contractor’s business has increase by nearly 90%. Nearly 50 years ago former President Eisenhower warned the American Public. “Beware of the Military Complex”

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Bush wants civilians to go rebuild Iraq after he stole all the money to do the job? There is no power, water waste treatment after all this time.

The paid contractors are being killed and not protected. Why would Americans go for free? OR would that be any "civilian" corp?

Anyone in Iraq is in danger from our own "mercinaries and contractors" just like the world journalists. They want to have more people die in the ME. It is genocide.

Any Bush Civilian Corp would not be like the Peace Corp set up by Kennedy. Everything Bush mentions can't be done/financed or is something other than what he proposes. It makes him look good to those who trust him...the last 30% anyway.

When i watched this roll call on tv Senator McCain was listed as a "no vote". Now I don't see his name at all on this list. Did I miss it or what? I also don't see his name on the original list.